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Anyone going to be in Tassie on Thursday 2nd of Feb?
We’re pleased to spread the news that Margo Lanagan will now be joining us on February 2nd for a launch of her new book, Sea Hearts. Margo and Tansy Rayner Roberts will share the evening, making it a very exciting double launch for us — don’t miss it!
Thursday February 2nd
5:30pm
The Hobart Bookshop*
Rowena Cory Daniells will launch Reign of Beastsby Tansy Rayner Roberts.
This is the final book in Rayner-Roberts’ The Creature Court trilogy.
Richard Harland will launch Margo Lanagan‘s Sea Hearts — an an extraordinary tale of desire and revenge, of loyalty, heartache and human weakness, and of the unforeseen consequences of all-consuming love.
So if you happen to be around, drop into the Hobart Bookshop and toast to Tansy and Margo’s new books!
As some of you might know our ROR writing group gets together every 12 – 18 months to critique our books in progress.
Back in 2001 at the first ROR we read Margo Lanagan’s Black Juice anthology and wept over Singing my Sister Down, which went on to win a World Fantasy Award. That was also the year we read Maxine Mc Arthur’s Less than Human, which went on to win the Aurealis Award for SF in 2004.
Since then there have been many RORs, and critiqued many books. Some of these books have been shelved or are still waiting to be completed and others have been published, some of have won awards or been shortlisted for awards. (This reminds me I must update our success page. There’s been more sales since then. My bad).
For those of you who are interested, I’ve blogged about how to set up your own ROR group and how we critique. There are eight of us, but due to life, family and deadlines we don’t get to every ROR. (I’ve done them all so far, but I’m a bit of a ROR groupie. I even maintain this site in my spare time. All very sad, really).
Our next ROR is coming up in a couple of weeks. Having a deadline to get a book written for is a great motivator. We’re all madly reading each other’s WIPs (Works-in-progress), writing reports and planning to run away and be full time writers for a week!
There will be one book launch and possibly two, stay tuned!
From the Steele's Island web page. Link below.
This time we’re going to Tassie to Steele’s Island. Looks perfect for a bunch of nerdy writers!
So I’d like to raise a glass of cyber champagne to:
My writing friends, ROR ten years* on and still going strong!
* We couldn’t squeeze in a ROR last year in 2011, which would have been exactly 10 years, so this 2012 ROR is our official 10 year birthday bash.
It’s Nanowrimo so I’m currently swamped with writing a new novel. I hated it bitterly for the first week, resenting every 1667 I had to squeeze out of a stone daily, and devastated that the book I had been waiting two years to write was betraying me so badly.
But now it’s week 2, my momentum is up, and I’m falling happily in love with exactly the same novel. Ah, the ups and downs of the writering.
There are still a couple of months before the release of Reign of Beasts, the third in my Creature Court trilogy, and to celebrate I am making a quilt. Well, I started making a quilt, and then I photographed some of the bits, and then I stopped making a quilt. The *important* detail is that I was able to print up some gorgeous postcards in honour of four of the novel’s heroines – Velody, Rhian, Delphine and Livilla – and I have a plan to write sneak peek excerpts of Book 3 onto said postcards, and release them into the wild.
If you are one of those people hanging out for Reign of Beasts (and particularly if you are among those people who were counting on it being out in October – sorry about that!) then all you have to do to earn a postcard hand-written with a tantalising glimpse of Book 3 is:
Design or describe an outfit for one of the characters of the Creature Court novels to wear.
EVERYONE’S A WINNER:
Everyone who enters the contest & provides me with a postal address [to creaturecourt (at) gmail.com – please don’t post addresses in comments] will receive a Creature Court postcard with a juicy snippet from Book 3 hand-written by me.
You can take the challenge as seriously or as flippantly as you choose. I look forward to seeing your entries. Unless you request otherwise, I will post your entries on my blog. If you wish me to remove them from public display at any time, just ask.
Competition is open until 15th December or until I run out of postcards, whichever comes first!
Kudos to Tansy and the team at Twelfth Planet Press. There’s a good review over on Gwennth Jones’ blog. (See it here)
As authors it is always a buzz when a fellow author says they like your book or story. Another author can see all the craft because they build stories too.
So, it’s a bit like building a bridge and then having another bridge engineer come along and say: ‘Hey there, like your bridge’.
I must admit when ever I read a Terry Pratchett book I read it on two levels, one for enjoyment and one for the pure appreciation of his craft.
So Kudos to TPP, Tansy, Lucy Sussex, Deborah Biancotti and Sue Isles.
There are times in my life when I forget how to read.
To be more specific, I forget why it is that reading needs to be a prioritised task, if not in my day, then at least in my week.
Priority of tasks is one of those things that absolutely drives my day. I have two daycare days a week for my baby, which is heavenly, and yet my elder daughter’s after school activities take a chunk out of both those days – so my working day starts somewhere about 9:30am after the school run, and finishes about 2:30 as I head out for the second school run. Five hours, twice a week.
On non-daycare days, I get somewhere between an hour and two hours of baby-free time, depending entirely on how long she naps. So priority of tasks is huge to me. I have to write, obviously. I have a book to finish this year. I don’t have enough time to be able to manage two big brain-heavy working shifts in the day, which means if there are edits or proofs or other writerly tasks to be done, it’s that OR drafting the new novel, not both.
All other tasks, like blogging, checking emails, housework (ha!), (damn that reminded me I had to set the robot vacuum going while writing this post), book publicity, etc. all has to be squeezed into those precious baby-free hours – or I have to ask myself whether it is in fact something which can be managed during a baby-present period of the day.
I can work while the baby is there. It’s just harder. Sometimes she plays at my feet or watches Play School or runs off into corners to giggle with her big sister. Sometimes she clings to me like a limpet. Sometimes she really really REALLY wants me to read that story to her for the third time, or dance like a giraffe, or build a tower so she can knock it over with her mighty tiny hands. No, she can’t talk yet. Yes, she gets her message across.
The tasks which get pushed into the ‘sure I can do that when the baby’s awake’ list, it has to be said, tend not to get done at all. It’s an erratic sort of list and I do feel rather sorry for the tasks that get shoved there indefinitely.
Technically anything that involves my laptop (WRITING BOOK) should be easier than anything that requires me being in another part of the house (WASHING UP, and damn I still haven’t set the vacuum going…). But I have to think about my brain, too. I’m fairly well acquainted with how it works these days and while it is technically possible for me to write a few paragraphs of the new book draft in between breastfeeding and ‘this little piggy,’ it’s not a very effective way to produce dark, sexy prose.
Which is all a long way around saying that reading books, a task which can technically be performed anywhere, and which technically requires less attention span than writing books, often gets shoved into the ‘oh I can do that while baby’s awake’ list. And that’s how I end up with books scattered, half-read, across the house, all with their bookmarks missing (Jem likes to steal bookmarks, it is less appalling than her book chewing phase was, but the glee on her face as she does it makes it very clear that she know EXACTLY HOW EVIL IT IS) and my ability to concentrate on anything more complex than Spot Goes To School goes out the window.
It’s easy, when I’m not reading, to think about the task as an indulgence, or a reward. Something to be done when the housework (DAMN IT, okay, I’m setting the vacuum up now). Somehow I have no problem justifying the expense of books to myself or my partner (duh, tax-deductible!) or the space they take up in the house (THESE ARE MY TOOLS OF WORK!) but I still can’t shake that guilty feeling if I have to admit I spent half my work day reading.
But here’s the thing: reading makes me write better. I don’t just mean research books which I hope will save me from major Jubilee-Line-in-World-War-2 type faux pas, or even those gorgeous classics of literature which train me to write better sentences, through pure osmosis. Reading anything, but especially books that inspire me with their goodness and occasionally those that anti-inspire me with their woefulness, flips a switch in my head that makes me think more actively about writing, and technique, and theme, and what I’m actually doing in that dratted book of mine.
No other leisure activity does this so successfully. Some do a bit – my new habit of inhaling Big Finish audios are quite close to it, and TV & movies-at-the-cinema often spark off the Story Creatures in my brain. (I recently watched 4 episode of Skins in a row and by the end of it was trying to figure out if I could achieve anything close to it with a series of linked short stories IN SPACE) But books are the best. They remind me, over and over, that I am a writer, and if I’m reading regularly while writing first draft work, then the work I produce is better and cleaner and more inspired, and faster to produce.
As long as, you know, I remember to put the books down SOMETIMES and pick up the damn laptop. Which really isn’t a problem at the moment, as I’ve got so out of practice at reading substantial works that I don’t seem capable of sitting still for more than 15 minutes at a time. Good for a less sedentiary lifestyle, not so good for finishing the latest Glenda Larke before Volume 3 comes out.
Does reading make YOU write better, or does it get in the way? What fiction has inspired you lately?
First of all, it must be said that being a finalist in these awards is an achievement. Congrats to all the finalists. Secondly, I’d like to congratulate everyone who won in their sections.
But, since this is the ROR blog, I’m going to do a WOOT for the team.
Winner of the Young Adult Short Story Aurealis Award:
Margo Lanagan ‘A Thousand Flowers’ published in ‘Zombies Vs Unicorns’, by Allen & Unwin.
Winner Horror Short Story Aurealis Awards:
Richard Harland ‘The Fear’, which appeared in ‘Macabre: A Journey through Australia’s Darkest Fears’, published by Brimstone Press.
Winner Fantasy Novel Aurealis Awards:
Tansy Rayner Roberts ‘Power and Majesty’, published by Voyager, (Harper Collins).
Winner Science Fiction Novel Aurealis Awards:
Marienne de Pierres ‘Transformation Space’ published by Orbit (Hachette).
Well, it’s that time of year again. And this year the Aurealis Awards will be held in Sydney. Harper Collins Voyager is sponsoring the awards. Kudos to the new AA management team, SpecFaction for pulling it all together. A national award like this with a different panel for each section, and a different panel for both the novels length and short stories is a major taks to organise.
This year the RORees have books and short stories in several section.
Young Adult Short Story
Dirk Flinthart has a story in this section. Goodluck with ‘One Story, No Refunds’ which appeared in ‘Shiny’ #6, from Twelfth Planet Press.
I’d wish Dirk all the luck inthe world, but this is where it gets tricky because Margo Langan has a story in the same section. ‘A Thousand Flowers’ published in ‘Zombies Vs Unicorns’, by Allen & Unwin.
Then to make matters even more complicated, Tansy Rayner Roberts has a story which she co-wrote with Kaia Landelius in this section. ‘Nine Times’ appeared in ‘Worlds Next Door’, published by Fablecroft Publishing.
Horror Short Story
Richard Harland’s story ‘The Fear’, which appeared in ‘Macabre: A Journey through Australia’s Darkest Fears’, published by Brimstone Press.
Horror Novel
Here we have Trent Jamieson with the first book of his ‘Death Works’ trilogy, ‘Death Most Definite’, published by Orbit (Hachette).
Fantasy Novel
Here Trent’s book ‘Death Most Definite’ appears again, along with book one of Tansy’s Creature Court trilogy, ‘Power and Majesty’, published by Voyager, (Harper Collins).
Science Fiction Short Story
Tansy does it again, with her short story ‘Relentless Adaptions’, which appeared in ‘Sprawl’, published by Twelfth Planet Press.
Science Fiction Novel
Marienne de Pierres’ books from her ‘Sentients of Orion’ series, ‘Mirror Space’ and ‘Transformation Space’ publsihed by Orbit (Hachette).
So, here’s wishing the RORees best of luck on Saturday night. TAnd while we’re at it the ROR team would like to wish all the finalists* the best of luck and congratulate them all for making it into the final 5 or less.
We’ll keep you posted. Tansy is going to be a presenter, so I’m sure she’ll be tweeting from the audience.
*For those of you who would like to view the complet list of finalist see here.
Well, it’s that time of year again and the finalists for the Aurealis Awards have been announced. (See here for the Press Release with the full list).
But for now I’m going to do the Happy Dance for my fellow RORees.
In the Young Adult Short Story Section, we have Dirk Flinthart with his story One Story, No Refunds (Shiny#6, Twelfth Planet Press) . And this is where it gets interesting, because Margo’s story A Thousand Flowers (Zombies Vs Unicorns, Allen and Unwin) is also nominated in the same section. And that’s not all, Tansy Rayner Roberts’ story Nine Times (Co-written with Kaia Landelius, published in Worlds Next Door, Fablecroft Publishing) is also a finalist in the same section. All I can say is what a line up!
In the Horror Short Story Section, Richard Harland’s, The Fear (Macabre: A Journey Through Australia’s Darkest Fears, Brimstone Press) is a finalist.
The we come to the Horror Novel Section where Trent’s Death Most Definite (Orbit, Hachette) is a finalist. And just to prove how versatile Trent is, his book is also a finalist in the Fantasy Novel Section! Along with Tansy Rayner Roberts’ Power and Majesty (Harper Voyager, Harper Collins).
Then we come to the Science Fiction Short Story Section where Tansy’s Relentless Adaptions (Sprawl, Twelfth Planet Press) is a finalist.
And finally we come to Science Fiction Novel Section. Here Marianne de Pierres has two books, Mirror Space and Transformation Space (Orbit, Hachette). These are the last two books of the Sentients of Orion series.
So I’m doing the Happy Dance for Richard, Dirk, Margo, Trent, Tansy and Marianne. It’s an honour for my fellow RORees to be finalists and fingers crossed on the big night in May!
So many lovely, thoughtful answers! I was completely spoiled for choice. In the end I went with Christine and her evocative descriptions of the pros and cons of being a fly or an elephant. But thanks to everyone who played along!
Christine, please email me at tansyrr (at) gmail.com with your postal details and your preference as to which book you would like to receive.
I first met the sweet, but ever so sharp, Tansy at World Con in 1999. She’d just had her first book come out and we shared the same publisher. Since then we’ve shared many a ROR and convention. Tansy’s new series Creature Court is an eclectic mix of Ancient Rome and the 1920s. I loved Power and Majesty (book one) in each of its incarnations as it came through ROR and I’m biting my nails, waiting on book two!
Watch out for the give-away question at the end.
Q: You came to writing success very early, winning the Inaugural George Turner SF Prize when you were nineteen (you were twenty by the time the book was published) with Splashdance Silver. If you were able to go back to the nineteen year old Tansy, knowing what you know now and give her advice, what would it be?
Get an agent BEFORE signing the contract! Also, don’t expect that just because you earned a living at this for one year, you’re going to be able to every year, and the ease with which you write the second book is going to be totally misleading about the effort required for all future books… and um, by the way, your publishing house will be bought out within a year and your editor will leave and you’ll lose all your support, and…
Wow, that’s a really depressing topic to start out on! I think something like “This is only the beginning, you will write better books, and this will (eventually) be your career,” is a bit more positive.
Q: You had success early, then you were ‘orphaned’ by your publisher and spent quite a few years out in the cold before being picked up by Harper Collins with your new Creature Court series. Did you ever feel like giving up? How did you sustain your creative drive?
It feels like a really long time (and indeed was a really long time) but I never really stopped. I wrote short stories by the bucketful, and worked on my craft that way. I spent several way fun years playing with small press as part of the ASIM collective. I wrote several manuscripts, and workshopped them with ROR – some were discarded, some went on to publication. I tried different genres and even tried on the hats of a few writerly pseudonyms. I only had one year without a writing credit, the year 2000 – and that was a real kick in the pants. After that I was always working on something, or getting something out there.
The first novel of the Creature Court has actually been six years in the making – I was about a year and a half into writing it when I had to put it away in the hopes of getting my PhD thesis submitted before my first daughter was born (it wasn’t). It took a lot longer to get back to it than I thought and then it only took one more revision before the novel sold. Lots of long periods of waiting – for publishers to decide, and then between the signing of the contract and the actual appearance of the book.
I never thought about giving up! Stop writing, are you mad?
Q: You have two delightful little girls now. Do you find having children has given you a new insight as a writer? And are you ever tempted to write for children?
It’s made me less precious as a writer, for a start. I remember when I used to need a WHOLE DAY to myself to write, and it always had to be at my desktop computer in the same part of the house… crazy, crazy luxuries. I trained myself to write at the drop of a hat, with a baby clamped to my leg, or in a cafe, or in the ad breaks.
I think being a mother has taught me a lot as a person, and that necessarily changes my writing. I don’t know that I’m a deeper or more insightful writer now, but I think I feel things more, and I suspect that has an effect.
I would love to write for children. If I could just get a few months to MYSELF I would run off that superhero middle grade series for girls that I have in my head.
Q: This leads on from the last question. I notice you’ve been reading and reviewing a lot of YA. Is this an area you are thinking of writing in, or do you read it for the love of it?
I long to be a YA author. I have written a few manuscripts, but nothing that has landed a bite yet. I also love reading YA for fun – my attention span has gone to hell over the last couple of years and I have found that YA is just so succinct as far as plot and character goes that it’s very enticing. I’ve been working this year to lure myself away from YA just a bit – reading some actual grown up books – but I do love it, and I really believe that some of the most exciting speculative fiction of the last few years has happened in this genre.
Q: You’ve edited ASIM, Shiny and AustrAlien Absurdities. Do you find editing has helped you develop as a writer? Do you have any advice for short story writers?
I enjoy editing although have been doing my best to give it up because it uses a lot of the same energies as my writing, but doesn’t give (me, personally) nearly as many of the same rewards. It was one distraction too many, once parenthood hit me over the head. Editing has done a lot for me as a writer – increased my critical awareness quite strongly. And it does tempt me back from time to time, but it would have to be a pretty incredible project to make me break my current stance on the matter.
As far as short story writers go – I think the most important thing to tell them is that it’s quite easy to get a half-decent short story published these days. There are so many markets, and so many editors. There’s nothing wrong with going for the cheap and easy sale when you’re just starting out. But ultimately if you want people to take you seriously, you need to look at what you’re sending out there, and whether these are stories good enough to build a reputation on. As someone who served out her “apprenticeship” in public venues, I look quite jealously at newbie authors who come out swinging, earning critical achievements and award nominations and so on with their first few published works.
This applies to novels too: a debut is a terrible thing to waste.
It was Marianne who did it! She and Lynne Jamneck had a glorious plan to edit a charity anthology of Australian urban fantasy, to raise funds for Crohns Disease. Their submission guidelines were so inspiring that I wrote a pitch straight away – because it was an anthology I decided to avoid vampires and werewolves on the basis that most people would choose them, and I decided to set it in Hobart because I figured again I was the only one who would do that!
Once I started thinking of how to turn Hobart into an urban fantasy city, it came so easily – the docks, Salamanca, seamonsters, and Nancy Napoleon standing damaged on the edge of the city, protecting it from invaders. I was so excited that I took a month off what I was supposed to be doing and just wrote the thing. They used it as part of their pitch document for publishers and it got within an inch of being accepted before the Global Financial Crisis hit, and suddenly an anthology wasn’t an appealing risk for a Big Name publisher. So sad…
But Alisa loved the story when I sent it to her next and it was published as the first of the Twelfth Planet Doubles, along with a gorgeous story by Robert Shearman. Since then – well, I have said repeatedly that Siren Beat is the story that keeps giving back! It’s earned me more critical acclaim than any of my previous writings put together, and apart from the various nominations and the lovely win from the WSFA, it’s also now earned me two writing grants to give Nancy Napoleon a novel of her own.
Q: You have a PHD in Classics and spent a month in Rome. I believe the topic of your thesis was Imperial Roman Women. Did this area of study help you develop the world for Creature Court?
Technically the series was first sparked off in my head when a mouse invaded the study in our old house! But that’s a far more mundane story of origin… my studies of Ancient Rome absolutely infused these books. I used my memories of tramping around the city to give a feeling of weight and reality to my imaginary city of Aufleur – which led to all kinds of fun and games when we got to the mapmaking part, I can tell you! Turns out the Rome in my head is nothing like the one on the page…
It was actually my Honours thesis that contributed most to these books – I was studying women’s role in the Roman religion, and one of my great fascinations is the Fasti, a poem which details the many traditional festivals of the old city. I started thinking what it would be like to actually live in a city where the economy revolved around rites and festivals – taking the old ‘bread and circuses’ concept and pushing it further. That was the essential core of Aufleur – sure, there was this whole little plot about dark, twisted magical shape-changing superheroes and the sky trying to kill them, but MOSTLY it’s a book about ancient religious calendars.
Heh okay, that’s a total lie. The festivals are purely background. But they were an important inspiration for the society, and it made me think very much about the role of festivals and traditions in our society. I say this as someone who just totally WON at Christmas, and is very smug at having all her presents bought and wrapped… apart from the 8 or so that haven’t been delivered yet!
Q: Book one, Power and Majesty is out now. When are the other two books due? Did you have the books written or planned when you accepted the contract? If not, was it a struggle with two small children to meet your deadlines?
Book Two, Shattered City, is scheduled for April 2011 and Book Three, Reign of Beasts, is scheduled for October 2011. I had always planned for there to be more of this story, though when I sold Power and Majesty I only had three paragraphs, one for each sequel (it was originally planned to be a series of four). As it turned out, everything from about halfway through Book Two was to change drastically from my initial plots. Part of the reason there was such a long gap between the sale of P&M and its publication was to give me time to write Books 2 and 3.
Words cannot express how hard it was to meet those deadlines. I have always prided myself on being professional and I was so determined to be the author who met every target with quality and quantity and a big smile on my face. I did pretty well to start off with, and even managed to get ahead of my deadlines as far as the writing went – which was totally necessary when my second baby was born! It was the editing that killed me. Juggling a school age daughter, a new baby and writing Book #3 was totally possible, but stretched me to the absolute limit of my resources. So whenever one of those essential things like structural edits, copy edits or proofs arrived for one of the other books, I fell in a heap. I resented that so badly, because I KNOW that I can do that kind of work standing on my head. But it happened over and over, and every time I had to stop writing Book 3 to edit something, I lost all momentum. It was hugely frustrating. Luckily my publishers were understanding, and there was just enough give in the schedules to make everyone happy. I know now that I need to take the fact that I have two children actually into consideration when planning deadlines.
Q: When Marianne and I approached you back in 2001 to see if you’d like to join ROR, you agreed and have been part of the group ever since. Did you find ROR helped you in developing or directing your writing and, if so, in what ways?
Being invited to join ROR was a lovely surprise! It came at a time when I was quite dispirited about my writing career, and gave me a boost that was sorely needed. To be treated as a peer by writers – all women in that initial group – who were older and more experiences than me really made me think about my future, and what I wanted from it, and how to raise my own expectations of what I could do. Also you guys were totally right about what I needed to do with the beginning of Power and Majesty!
There were times when RORing a manuscript gave me the confidence to pursue it and turn it into something great – and other times where I did just let one drop, which is also a good thing to do from time to time. More than anything, I love the time we spend together on those rare weeks away, talking about writing all night, hanging out together, and just FEELING like a writer. It’s soul-feeding.
Q: What are you currently working on?
You have caught me technically between projects! I have some editing and proofing still to do on the remaining Creature Court books, over the summer. I’ve just this week finished a small collection of stories for Twelfth Planet Press which I shall be able to talk more about in due course. And as soon as the school holidays end, I am plunging back into the world of sea monsters, kelpies and Nancy Napoleon to write FURY, a novel that I received an Australia Council Grant and Arts Tasmania grant to write. It’s very exciting!
After that, who knows?
Q: At ROR we always do our realistic goals and our dream goals. So what are your realistic goals (what are you currently working on) and what are your dream goals?
My realistic goals are to sell at least one novel a year for the next five years, but particularly to get the Nancy Napoleon series written. I have one other fantasy series that I long to write but it still requires a lot of sitting and thinking time.
My dream goals are to have a YA career in tandem with an adult fantasy career (once Jem gets to kindergarten I can TOTALLY manage this), possibly running a second writing name to keep it all straight in my head as well as the bookshop catalogues. Also, I long to judge the Tiptree Awards. They are my favourites and my best. I would also love to win one, of course, but that’s almost too dreamy a thing to long for. I want desperately to attend a World Fantasy Convention.
My dream goal used to be about earning a living from my writing, but as the mother of two kids who is also running a small business from home, my concept of “earning a living” has shifted somewhat. I have a lot of jobs right now! Having said that, I would rather like to help my honey slam our mortgage into smithereens. He’s invested rather a lot in me over the years and it’s about time I paid some of it back.
The Give-away question is: “if you could change into an animal, which would you choose and why?”
Tansy will be giving away either a copy of Power and Majesty or Siren Beat Please nominate which you would prefer to receive. The competition will be open until Tuesday of next week when we’ll announce the winner.
